Let's set the record straight right now before the rumor goes any farther: While my name is Christian, I am not the person behind the site, www.chriseo.com, or the newsletter that they send out. It's not that I have a problem with what they do or say, it's just that it's not me. Check the owner of the domain name if you think I'm trying to hide something.
I have to admit that some of the posts reflect some of the feelings and attitudes about the SEO industry that I have, when they comment about www.engine-spam.com. You should read the article on www.chriseo.com, but the main idea is that it's impractical for a small group of SE spam vigilantes to play policeman. We submitted our last client project to 161 different search engines and directories. We don't spam, but if we did, would this group report us to all 161 sites? I think not. Would there reporting have much affect? I think not. Do these people have lives outside of spam reporting? I would hope so.
Their main thing is being upset at sites that hide and repeat keywords on the page code. They "intend" to report any and all violators, and it sounds like they are not concerned with what the specific engine guidelines are. Yawn....!
I have a suggestion that may be helpful in many ways: Forget about reporting sites that may or may not be using spam on specific search engines. You are trying to plug the leak, when you could be turning off the water main...!!! Let me explain....
Don't report sites that are using SPAM. Contact and work with the search engines to have them DETECT and IGNORE the spam that you are talking about. A little bit of effort to improve SE filter methods would do much more to level the playing field then thousands of person-hours wasted in reporting all the funky sites out there. If you can see it and it's got a pattern, you can program for it.
It's pointless to go after those that make use of "loopholes" or lack of enforcement. Ask the search engines to enforce their rules, and help them to get the job done if it's so important to you....
(hristian
I have to admit that some of the posts reflect some of the feelings and attitudes about the SEO industry that I have, when they comment about www.engine-spam.com. You should read the article on www.chriseo.com, but the main idea is that it's impractical for a small group of SE spam vigilantes to play policeman. We submitted our last client project to 161 different search engines and directories. We don't spam, but if we did, would this group report us to all 161 sites? I think not. Would there reporting have much affect? I think not. Do these people have lives outside of spam reporting? I would hope so.
Their main thing is being upset at sites that hide and repeat keywords on the page code. They "intend" to report any and all violators, and it sounds like they are not concerned with what the specific engine guidelines are. Yawn....!
I have a suggestion that may be helpful in many ways: Forget about reporting sites that may or may not be using spam on specific search engines. You are trying to plug the leak, when you could be turning off the water main...!!! Let me explain....
Don't report sites that are using SPAM. Contact and work with the search engines to have them DETECT and IGNORE the spam that you are talking about. A little bit of effort to improve SE filter methods would do much more to level the playing field then thousands of person-hours wasted in reporting all the funky sites out there. If you can see it and it's got a pattern, you can program for it.
It's pointless to go after those that make use of "loopholes" or lack of enforcement. Ask the search engines to enforce their rules, and help them to get the job done if it's so important to you....
(hristian
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